Monday, August 4, 2014

Boondocking and Campground Sites near Pagosa Springs, Colorado

A couple of weeks ago (late July) we decided to explore the Pagosa Springs area and see if we could find any good boondocking sites and do some hiking and exploring.  We did find a few good boondocking spots.

I had scoped out the area using the Benchmark Maps: Colorado Road & Recreation Atlas.  It was helpful to use Google Maps to zoom in using the satellite view and see if an area looked good for boondocking  (was the road accessible for a 2 wheel drive van, was the area wide and flat, was there an existing fire pit -  Google provides a high enough resolution satellite map to actually see bare areas and fire pits if you look closely).

We were heading up from Los Alamos, NM and so I looked for spots off Hwy 84.  It looked like there were spots off County Road 382 and then up Price Lakes Rd (Forest Service Rd FS 731) and on Buckles Creek Rd (FS 663).

We decided the first night we wanted to be closer to Pagosa Springs, so we turned up Mill Creek Rd (FS 662 & 665 that starts near the Pagosa Rodeo Grounds).  We saw three or four fairly large level spots near where the road crossed into the San Juan National Forest.  They were down in a narrow valley and we were hoping for better views of the surrounding mountains so we kept driving up higher.  (One of the lower spots on Google Maps.)  A few of the spots were kinda muddy from the recent monsoon rains.

A ways up the forest road, we finally saw a side road that looked interesting on the left side.  We drove in a few hundred feet and it opened up into a quite large flat area.  No one was there at the time but you could see more than one fire pit had been used in the past.  You can fit many large RVs in this area and I am sure during hunting season this is a popular spot for use as a base camp in that area.  It included a little pond. It may have been a gravel pit area for building forest roads at one time. (Update: It is marked as a gravel pit on the DeLorme's Colorado Atlas and Gazetteer.)

Site Coordinates: 37.270932, -106.880951

Our Mill Creek Forest Service area boondocking site near Pagosa Springs Colorado.


We drove through this large area and finally settled in, parking on the west side of the large open field.

We pulled out a small table and chairs and had our dinner of potato salad, chips, celery sticks and more.

During our dinner, a truck pulled in with two big and very excited yellow labs jumping about in the truck bed.  We waved to the guy driving the truck.  He waved back.  We had walked around the area just before eating dinner and found a part of the area that was clearly used for shooting target practice.  There were also broken skeet clay pigeons littered all over ground in this area.  The truck headed over to the target practice corner, which was on the other side of the large clearing.  After a while we heard his gun going off.

In the past we probably would have been scared off by the gun shots, but we have learned that if you are going to be boondocking on forest service land you better get use to folks shooting off their guns, because it's pretty common.  This time we just accepted it and kept eating our dinner. 

The guy doing target practice left after about a half-hour and no other vehicles entered our campsite area that night.

At dusk, there we a lot of interesting birds and bird sounds.  We saw two owls flying low and swooping about.  It was exciting to watch them.

A clear night allowed us to enjoyed looking at stars. Eventually we would like to get a nice telescope to take on our travels.

We set up the van for bed, climbed in and got a good nights rest. 

There is some 3G cell phone signal at this location that came in and out. Karen was able to do some Facebook reading and posting.  I imagine if you have a cell phone booster, you probably would receive a good 3G signal at this location.

The road was very good to this location, but if it rained a lot, it could get mushy and you might have trouble getting back down the hill safely in a 2 wheel drive vehicle.  You might have to wait for the road to dry out a bit before heading back down to Pagosa Springs.  Lucky for us it didn't rain that night.

We thought this boondocking site was a pretty great location and would return if we want to boondock again near Pagosa Springs.  It is big enough that if others were boondocking there, you could probably find an empty corner and not feel like you were intruding.

In the morning we decided to check out a side road and a small pond that were farther up the road.   The pond was pretty much just a small algae pond and we didn't see any further good boondocking sites as far up as we went (up to Beaver Lake - not really a lake in my book). 


After exploring for a bit, we decided to head into Pagosa Springs and have breakfast at the Rose Cafe. The cafe is pretty much across the street from the famous springs area downtown.  We had a really nice breakfast.  I would recommend it. They had cornbeef hash, a favorite of mine!

Our plan for the day was to drive up and explore Piedra Rd (County RD 600 to Forest Rd 631).  I had seen that there was a lot of boondocking off FSR 629 into the Turkey Springs area.  We ended up deciding to drive all the way up Piedra Rd that day.  We will have to return to check out Turkey Springs boondocking on another trip.

I had reviewed Pagosa area hiking trails and saw one that started near the well known Sportsman Supply Campground and Cabins and was highly rated in local online hiking guides.  We parked in a wide trailhead parking lot and headed up the trail.  The trail drops into a really super pleasant box canyon.  It's a beautiful area not to be missed.  On the way out we were able to take off our shoes and wade in the river in order to cool off.  Man that was refreshing.

Piedra River south of the Sportman's Supply store. Pretty darn nice.
Coordinates to hike trailhead: 37.430190, -107.194200.


After the hike we headed up to the Sportsman Supply store and got ourselves a totally unhealthy (but tasty) snack. (The benchmark map had the supply store marked in the wrong location, so beware. It is at the beginning of forest road 997.)

After gobbling down our sinful snacks, we headed up to Williams Creek Reservoir.  We explored Williams Creek forest service campground.  It's fairly primitive but it's pretty nice.  There are nice sites next to Williams Creek and a few have water and sewer (in this loop).  It's a fairly large campground.  We were impressed with the serenity of the place.  (There is also a FS campground called Bridge with many sunny sites right on the creek.  It was packed with lots of large RVs.  We didn't drive in to check it out, but could see most of the sites from the road.)

Next, we came to Teal FS campground.  This campground is special with sites overlooking Williams Creek Reservoir.  It's a very pleasant campground.  You can reserve spots there, but there is no electric or sewer.

There is a dump station nearby that services all the campgrounds in this area.  It costs $10 to "take a dump." (Location of the dump station just south of Williams Creek CG.)

Teal Forest Service Campground on Williams Creek Reservoir.  Looks pretty nice and it's popular.

We would have stayed at Teal, but it was totally full so we drove further up to Cimarrona FS campground.  It was another really pleasant campground with a couple of available sites with great views.  We found a great site with a view of great mountains, a cow meadow and the reservoir.  We decided that instead of boondocking that night we would take this site, make a nice meal over the metal fire pit and relax.

The view from our campsite at Cimarrona.

Our site #4 with wonderful mountain views.
Coordinate at Cimarrona Campground:  37.538454, -107.210223

The fee for camping was $18 (no discounts for us, but half price if you have a Golden Age Pass).  There is no cell service that we could pick up in this area.  It has very well maintained pit toilets and fire pits.  The current camp hosts are a really nice couple named Larry and Kathy.   They keep the place looking great.

I believe we were in site #4.  It's the site on the right side just after the pit toilet.

While there we met a full-timer in a Class A Motorhome named Wayne.  (Wayne's Travels -Website)  He had an impressive Canon digital camera with a built in 50x lens that he uses for birding.  He keeps a photo album of birds and flowers where he identifies each species.  Wayne has been full-timing for eight years in his Motorhome!

We spent a pleasant time talking with Larry, Kathy and Wayne at the host site campfire.We compared notes about great New Mexico hikes. Wayne has volunteered for a time at the Bosque del Apache, one of our favorite places in New Mexico to see amazing flocks of wintering birds.

Wayne also told us about a traversing uphill hike from the campground way up to one of the nearby mountain cliff areas with great views.  We plan to return to bag that hike!

Karen talks to Wayne at Cimarrona Campground.

The next morning, after cooking up a very tasty breakfast on our butane stoves, we drove up the nearby Poison Park forest service road (FS 644).  There were five or so really good boondocking sites up along this road.

Our butane stoves ready to cook breakfast.

Here are coordinates and links to Google Maps for the boondocking sites we saw that looked good on Poison Park Road:
Site 1 is actually on FS 640 right at the turn onto FS 644: 37.538604, -107.209363.
Site 2 is next door just up around the corner on FS 644:  37.535668, -107.216092.
Site 3 up FS 644 further has a great meadow and views across the street from it:
37.533411, -107.224201.
Site 4 was our favorite spot that we saw here.  It has nice trees and a fairly large flat area.  You could get a couple RVs in there easily and it was a pleasant spot: 37.526722, -107.240165.
Site 5 was near an algae filled pond. It had nice tree cover and a great fire circle, but there were cows all over that area and even in the campsite. We notice a lot of bugs in that area.  We would probably avoid this site because of the bugs and cow pies: 37.518287, -107.253219

The best looking site (4).


This site (5) is taken, buddy!

We saw a lot of fantastic flowers in the area of Poison Park Road.


Thursday, July 17, 2014

Wild Colorado


We went on a 10-day camping adventure from Los Alamos, NM to Crested Butte, Ridgway, Ouray, Durango, CO and back home to Los Alamos. The backcountry was alive with wildflowers. We tried to time the trip for the height of the bloom - but you never know when the color will peak. Our timing was excellent! We will write another post about the trip -  but here is a highlight of the wildflowers.













Friday, June 27, 2014

Stealth, Wally and Driveway-docking in California, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Colorado


Link to Part 1 -New Mexico to California - Boondocking and Hot Springs
Link to Part 2- California - Chico - Rolling Hills Casino - Wright's Beach

After an enjoyable stop at Wright's Beach Campground on the Sonoma Coast, I aimed Humphrey south and headed down the coast to Stinson Beach, California.  When we lived in the Bay Area years ago, Stinson Beach was a favorite spot to visit.  This day the beach was great as always and the weather was sunny and warm.  I had a nice hike up and down the shore line.

After the hike and a little lunch, it was off to cross the Golden Gate Bridge.  As I crossed the great bridge, a helicopter dove under the bridge and out toward the sea.  I'm pretty sure it's illegal to fly under the bridge.  I read somewhere that Billionaire Larry Elison (CEO of Oracle) once did it in his private plane and got in big trouble.  Even if illegal, it was pretty cool to watch this pilot pull it off.

The local radio reported that the Bay Area was experiencing a severe heat-wave.  Everyone in the entire city had decided to head for Baker and Ocean beaches that afternoon.  There was absolutely no parking available.  Humphrey decided this was not for him and he kept going on through Pacifica and Devils Slide on Hwy 1.  This whole day included beautiful ocean sights along the way. 

We stopped along the route to view beach and ocean vantage points.  There were gray whales all over the place and they were very close to the shore along the coast south of San Francisco.  I hiked out to a couple of beach overlooks along the coast on the way to Santa Cruz.  There were lots of other people enjoying the beach, sun and cool ocean breezes.

At the end of the day, Humphrey and I arrived in Santa Cruz.  I drove past the beach and boardwalk area and then hunted for some food.  It was getting late and not much was open.  I programmed Humphrey's GPS system to find me a nearby Burger King where I purchased a bun-less whopper and headed back to Humphrey.  The burger was great on one of my gluten free buns I brought.

Before the trip, I had read a van dweller / homeless oriented blog that said a good place to stealth camp in a city was in an area that is between homes and industrial/business oriented areas.  Homeowners in these areas are use to the odd cars, trucks and vans coming and going from a nearby business / industrial operation, they aren't as picky as, say, an upper crusty estates type of development.

The Burger King was in one of these type of business / residential areas.  Across the street was a garden supply business.  I drove down the street a bit between the homes and the businesses and found a spot that was in front of what looked like a storage yard next door to a private home. 
Urban Stealth-docking in Santa Cruz, California.
Normally I put up a front window sunshade at night, but for stealth-docking Humphrey has a curtain that falls behind the front seats, that way it doesn't look like someone is camping in the van.  You can see the front drivers area as you pass by.  "Nothing to see here!"

After setting up the bed for the night and crawling in, I heard what sounded like skate boards heading towards us.  After jumping out of the bed and looking around, I saw two teens heading past Humphrey and down the street.  A few minutes later I heard a really loud car exhaust tud tud tud sound coming up the street slowly.  Again I jumped up, only to see the car pass by without incident.

I was a bit jumpy doing my first real stealth-docking, but after a bit I calmed down, jumped into the bed and fell fast asleep without any trouble all night.  In the morning, when I pulled up the front curtain, there was a truck parked in the wrong direction directly facing me with a guy sitting in it reading something.  It really freaked me out at first.  "What the hell?" - I thought.  It ended up that he apparently worked at the garden supply and was waiting for someone to open the yard gates.

I was happy that I had made it through my first stealth-docking experience unscathed.

I drove over to an ocean viewpoint that I was familiar with, pulled into a parking spot and made a nice breakfast in the van and then walked around a bit to enjoy the ocean views.
Surfers on the right, looking in the direction of the Santa Cruz Boardwalk.
This days ultimate destination was Sacramento, but first it was up and over the coastal mountains of Santa Cruz and into Los Gatos, then through Oakland and Berkeley.  In Berkeley, I headed past UC Berkeley and up to the Berkeley hills.  I stopped at the Lawrence Hall of Science for a great view of San Francisco and the Bay.  It was a very hot and beautiful day.
View from the Lawrence Hall of Science in Berkeley, California.
When I was a teen I often took a series of public buses from Oakland, where I lived, to the Hall of Science so that I could play around with their computers.  This was in the days when a computer was as big as a car, before Woz and Jobs invented small affordable personal computers.

Next I went up to Tilden Park and hiked around Lake Anza.  The traffic in the Bay Area was complete murder, so my plan was to go down behind Berkeley and take rural roads as much as possible until I joined up again with Hwy 80 to cross the Carquinez Bridge.  Traffic was good until I hooked back up to Hwy 80.  The traffic all the way to Sacramento was very heavy and it was not even close to rush hour yet!
Pleasant looking Lake Anza in Tilden Park in the hills above Berkeley, California.
As far as I am concerned, driving in the Bay Area is no longer a sane activity for the average person.  I am so thankful I no longer live in that mess!  I use to be able to drive anywhere in the Bay Area in less than an hour.  Now it's a parking lot everywhere, all the time. Life it too short to deal with constant stop and go traffic!

It took a while to get into Sacramento.  I took a cruise through old Sacramento and then through the town.  Sacramento is a nice town with an abundance of pleasant tree-lined streets.
Crossing the Tower Bridge headed into to Old Sacramento, California.

My next stop was a Walmart Supercenter in the Roseville area.  [Location]  After finding an area in the parking lot where a few truckers were parked, I entered the store and asked a manager if it was OK to park overnight. He told me that it was OK with him and Walmart, but that the city did not allow it.  I asked him if others park there overnight and he said yes.  Apparently, the city's policy was not enforced, unless the police are called out for a problem.   It seemed a little dicey to stay there but I was tired and there were truckers parked in the area with Humphrey. I decided the chances of the police bugging me were slim.  I setup for bed after having a quick dinner and slept just fine.

I recently learned, while working on my Blogger Campsite Review Map, that there is a nice Indian Casino near Roseville where I could have easily over-nighted.  It's called the Thunder Valley Casino.  It's near Roseville in Lincoln.  Oh well, next time!  I'm learning the boondocking ropes the hard way. In the future I will consult with casinocamper.com and see if there is a nice casino parking lot to blacktop-boondock in.

In the morning, I went into Walmart, purchased some of my favorite flavored soda-water cans (LaCroix water) and some fruit.  There is a McDonald's in the store so I purchase an egg McSomething.  After tearing off the sticky cheese-like-substance and the bread, I put what remained on my last remaining gluten free bun.  It was quite delicious!

Next, I headed across town to La Riviera Drive, near my college alma mater,  Sacramento State University, where I spent years and years happily attending undergraduate and graduate school.  I did a lot of bicycle riding back then. My plan was to ride the American River Trail down to Old Sacramento, downtown. 

After unpacking my bike and gear, I headed towards Sac State.  It's changed a lot with many new buildings.  The computer science and engineering building was just the same.  I locked up my bike and toured the building where I had spent a tremendous amount of my time and treasure.  I even saw a couple of my old professors.  It struck me that there were a lot more female students in the building than in my day. That is probably a good thing for multiple reasons.
View of Computer Science and Engineering Building from the bike path. Sacramento State University, California.

After my tour of the building, I toured the rest of the campus.  It was very different, yet pretty much the same.  I nearly smushed a squirrel that had dashed across the sidewalk in front of my wheel.  That hadn't changed.  Suicide squirrels were a regular part of life on campus.

I crossed the pedestrian bridge over the Sacramento River and headed south on the bike trail towards downtown.  Along the way I noticed a lot of relatively young homeless guys, with their shopping carts and all their stuff, just hanging out at many of the cement picnic benches found along the trail.

My guess is that they are Afghanistan and Iraq War vets, who haven't been able to adapt back to a normal work-a-day life. When I lived in the area in the early 90's, there were always homeless down by the river, but not in such high numbers as today.
Bike and pedestrian bridge across the American River, Sacramento.

The ride follows the river. It's pretty flat, fast and fun.  I arrived at Discovery Park, where the American River flows into the Sacramento River.  There were a lot of families enjoying the beach where the water from the two rivers merged.  A short stretch took me back to Old Sacramento where I enjoyed a natural frozen fruit slushy drink.  Strawberry, banana and orange slushy juice tasted great together on a hot summer day.
Merger point of the American and Sacramento Rivers, Discovery Park, Sacramento, California.

I called my college friend, who I was going to stay with overnight.  He was going to give me the keys to his house so I could go there and take a shower after my ride.  His wife is also a college friend.  (Karen and I were their match-makers!)  She was home with a bad migraine headache.  I was not to disturb her when I got to their house. So, I met him downtown at his office, got the key and then rode on city streets back to Sac State and Humphrey.

Aaron and Mary's house is in an area of Sacramento called Land Park.  It's a beautiful part of Sacramento with quiet streets, nice homes and lots of great shade trees. 
Over Aaron and Mary's house in Land Park, Sacramento.
When I got to their house, Mary, was awake and greeted me.  I took a shower and then Aaron, got home.  He and I walked to a nearby Mexican restaurant and had a nice meal and chat.  They are both doing great.

Aaron wants Karen and I to go in with them on a vacation house in Tahoe.  He has had this dream for years.  Karen and I use to live in Tahoe and years ago sold a home we once owned there.  Aaron wishes he had purchased our place from us.  It was a really cute small house that would be perfect as a weekend and holiday getaway place.

We drove by the house and got this photo when we drove through South Lake Tahoe on this trip.
Our cute little old house in South Lake Tahoe, California

The next day, Aaron went to work.  Mary was still not feeling well and stayed home.  She invited me to swim in their pool and play with their two very excited dogs.  I spent a few hours throwing toys into the pool and watching them retrieve toys over and over and over.   Mary and I talked for a long while about our college years and about our current lives and then it was time to head to Concord to meet Karen.

Karen had flown into Oakland where her Aunt Julie and Uncle Charlie picked her up and took her back to their home in Concord.

While in Concord we went to three baseball games of two nephews and a niece.  We visited with many of Karen's family members at the games. They are a big baseball oriented family on Karen's side.  It was a lot of fun. 
Watching youth softball in Concord, California.

The next stop was a camping trip with Karen's Aunt and Uncle. We all headed to Samuel P. Taylor State Campground.  Samuel P. Taylor is near San Rafael in the coastal mountain heading toward Point Reyes National Seashore.  The campground is near a nice creek and is in a thickly wooded area of tall redwood trees.  There are very nice shower rooms in the bathroom buildings.  

We found a wide site that could fit Julie and Charlie's truck and Humphrey.  We had a great stay there.  It's very shady and pleasant.  RV's can be accommodated but really long RV's would have trouble with some of the curves in the campground and some of the low hanging tree branches.  There is an area of walk-in camps down by the creek where you could probably park a big RV. There are no RV hookups.
Uncle Charlie, Aunt Julie and Karen enjoy portable camping hammocks at our nice Samuel P. Taylor campsite.

When it started getting dark, we noticed a trail of food items coming out of Humphrey.  A raccoon had entered Humphrey while we weren't looking and found our food bucket.  He'd got away with my gluten free bread loaf.   I searched in the forest next to our site and found his hidden lair. There was a pile of candy wrappers and lots of other bags. I found my bread bag in the pile.  Dang little bugger!  I saw his beady little eyes staring coldly at me from a nearby bush. He was huge!  He wasn't too afraid of me and clearly wanted me to leave him to his stash. I told him he was a bad, bad raccoon and went back to Humphrey.

We had a really great stay at Samuel P. Taylor.  We took a couple of nice hikes along the creek.  There are history plaques along the creek road that tell of the history of Samuel P. Taylor, who was the bay area paper mill magnet, and about the park.
Down by the beautiful creek at Samuel P. Taylor state park.
After saying goodbye to Aunt Julie and Uncle Charlie, we drove across the state up to Truckee and back to Sierra Hot Springs.  I had told Karen about what a nice camping place it is.  Karen wanted to visit and soak.  We soaked late into the night.  It drizzled a little while we were in the big pool.  We had the place pretty much to ourselves on this weekday night.

In the morning, we got up early so that we could drive around Tahoe and have breakfast at Ernie's on the other side of the lake in South Lake Tahoe. We've had many a great breakfast at Ernie's when we lived in South Lake in the mid-90's.
Ernie's in South Lake Tahoe. It's way more expensive for breakfast now, but it was still great!

After Ernie's, we drove down to the Tahoe Key's marina and went for a short walk to the shore of beautiful Lake Tahoe.

When we lived in the area, we had two large Malamute dogs.  They loved to go to this area and swim.  One year was a flood year (1997 or 1998) and small islands formed in the high lake water that filled the meadow in this area. The dogs swam from little island to little island.  We all had a memorable blast that day years ago.
Some billionaire's idea of an insanely huge Tahoe houseboat.

Beautiful Mount Tallac over beautiful Lake Tahoe.
After the hike, we headed across Nevada on Hwy 50, known as the "Loneliest Road In America."  I've taken it before and find it to be a great, low stress drive across Nevada.  You travel through a few mining towns and over some easy mountain passes.  It's a two lane road.  It's a lot more pleasant then Hwy 80, in my opinion.  For one thing you don't have to deal with tons of eighteen wheelers.  Second, 50 is a more scenic route.
Lonely Hwy 50 in Nevada is a pleasant drive across the state.
Humphrey arrived at Great Basin National Park just as it was getting dark. It was the Thursday of Memorial Day Weekend and we found the two open campgrounds were pretty darn full with RVs.  There were some larger rigs up there. We don't know how they got into some of those tight camp spots.  The roads in the campground are fairly steep in some places.

The best campground is up top at the 10,000 foot level.  Unfortunately, it was still closed and had a lot of snow still covering the campsites.  That pushed everyone into the two remaining lower campgrounds (Lower Lehman Creek and Upper Lehman Creek) that are halfway down the mountain.  We drove all around the two campsites and finally decided to stay in the one remaining site at Upper Lehman, which was a handicapped spot.  It was 10:30 pm when we finally pulled into the spot.  We figured that we would be the last folks looking for a spot that night and so it would be OK if we took that last one, even if it was handicapped.  
Our spot at Upper Lehman Creek Campground in Great Basin National Park.

In the morning, we moved Humphrey down a few hundred yards to the day use picnic area and cooked up a great breakfast.  There was a creek flowing fast nearby. 
Lehman Creek in Great Basin National Park.
If you haven't been to Great Basin, you need to go.   It's a really wonderful, relatively new, National Park.  It reminds me a little of Mount Lassen National Park in California.  It's got a nice forest and beautiful mountain views.  It's surrounded by Nevada and Utah desert.  There is one road that takes you up to the 11,000 foot level.  There are some caves that sound really interesting that you can tour.  We haven't had a chance to do that yet, but we will!  There is an RV place with hookups at the bottom of the mountain just outside the park and across from the visitor's center (Whispering Elms Motel and RV Park).

If you can get into the highest campground at the end of the road, that is the way to go.  It's a great campground with nice sites.  Nearby is a trail-head were you can hike up to small lakes and to the top of the mountain.

The views along the road to the top are simply spectacular.  We drove to the end of the road that overcast morning.
Looking up towards the top of Mount Wheeler in Great Basin National Park.
Hiking trails on Wheeler Peak, Great Basin National Park.  Click to enlarge.

We plan to return to camp at the top campground (Wheeler Peak) and hike up to the top of Wheeler!

Humphrey headed down the mountain, across the Utah desert and on to Draper, a suburb of Salt Lake City. 

Recently, there was a report that New Mexico drivers are the worst in the nation based on accident rates, drunk driving accidents and other statistics.  Karen and I have to disagree.  Utah drivers are the worst of anywhere we have been, with New York drivers a close second. 

Utah drivers (and New York drivers) don't believe in driving lanes and will cross lanes on a whim at any moment without warning and without looking to see if there is a large white van next to them.  It's a hair raising adventure to drive in the Salt Lake City area.  New Mexico drivers are way more civil and courteous in our opinion.

New Mexico does have a very serious DWI problem that strikes typically late in the night and especially when bars close.  Don't drive around late at night in New Mexico and you can pretty much avoid the problem.  Almost weekly some unsuspecting family is wiped off this earth by a drunken, wrong-way driver on one of our two interstates. Salt Lake City, meanwhile, is fast asleep by 9 pm, that is the big difference.

The crazy thing is that our judges in NM don't throw the book at DWI drivers.  The judges in New Mexico just keep putting drunks back on the roads until they finally kill, and even then they put them back on the roads yet again and wonder why more death and mayhem are the direct result.  New Mexico has a huge DWI problem that is not being addressed in any way.
An all too typical New Mexico nightly news story. It never changes.

Consider yourself warned!  Seriously, do not drive after 10 pm while you are in NM if you can at all avoid it.

We visited with Karen's sister and brother and their families in Draper. (In the early 2000's we lived in Park City and a suburb of Salt Lake City.)  During this visit we "driveway-docked" with our yellow electric extension cord running into Karen's sister's garage.

After a pleasant visit, we headed back across Utah, through Grand Junction and then down to Ridgway Colorado where we stopped overnight at Orvis Hot Spring Resort

Orvis has a small camping area.  They charge $33 per person to camp overnight with no hookups, but that includes full access to the hot pools and facilities all night, if you want. 

We parked Humphrey at site #9, made dinner in the communal kitchen and then went for a long night time soak in the large naturally rock pool.  Ah, that felt good. 

Orvis has four pools of varying heat. There is a large sauna room and two indoor hot tubs. There are men's and women's changing areas and a nice kitchen with pots, pans, utensils, frig, stove/oven and microwave that campers may freely use. There are three or four hotel type rooms that can be rented in the main building. There is also a big round indoor pool that kids enjoy.

The camping area is basically a gravel parking lot with wooden decks to pitch a tent on.  They include fire rings.  You can also park your RV against the fence across from the camping area for dry vehicle camping.  The camping area is so, so but the views of the surrounding mountains from the camping area and RV parking are spectacular.
Orvis Hot Spring from the air. Courtesy: Orvis Hot Spring.
View from campsite #9 looking toward RV parking and mountains at Orvis Hot Springs.

After a good soak, we both slept very well and were ready for the long haul over the Million Dollar highway, through Durango, past Pagosa Springs, then down into New Mexico and back to Los Alamos.

Home at Last, Home at Last, Humphrey's Home at Last!!!!!  My boondocking vacation was a complete success.  I would return.






Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Albuquerque Overnighter

We are in research and dreaming mode for our future full-time RVing life. I continue my regular reading of several dozen blogs written by full-timers. I had several conversations with Ingrid of LiveLaughRV about their current rig and her recommendations for ultimate length and type of RV. I really appreciate her willingness to answer all my questions. This is one of the great things about the RV blogosphere.

Bloggers love comments on their posts. In fact, I probably spend more time reading the comments than the actual blogs. Some RV bloggers have hundreds of comments from their readers. You learn a lot, not only about the bloggers, but the readers ask awesome questions and provide recommendations and insight to this fascinating world.

Ingrid suggested we consider taking a look at Class Cs. When Greg heard a commercial that their was a three day RV show in Albuquerque (96 miles or 1.5 hours from Los Alamos), we jumped at the chance to check it out. So, Friday night after work - we packed up our camper van and hit the road.

We drove to Chipotle for a late dinner and then headed to Sandia Casino operated by Pueblo of Sandia.


Courtesy: Sandia Casino
Sandia offers overnight RV parking in their spacious parking lot. From our spot, we had beautiful views of the lights of the valley. Many other campers were taking advantage of the free overnight spot. We planned to go in and maybe play BINGO or slots as is the custom when sleeping for free in a casino parking lot. BINGO was over for the night, so we risked a whopping $5 on penny slots. We had fun and left the building with $7 profit!

Although we have never seen a show there yet, Sandia has an awesome Kiva style outdoor venue for concerts.

Sandia Casino pool area
We walked out to the pool area and sat on lounge chairs watching the swimmers, listening to the music and enjoying the beautiful, warm night. Since we weren't "staying" at the casino's hotel - we weren't allowed to swim - but it sure was enjoyable sitting by the pool.

Our awesome camping spot at Sandia Casino

Greg and Humphrey with the valley view from the Sandia Casino parking lot

Sandia Casino view from our camping spot
We slept through the quiet night. It was warm, so we ran our battery operated fans. In the morning, we were up early and had breakfast at the Casino's Thur Shan buffet when they opened at 7 a.m.
At $8.95 per person, it was a great deal.

Beautiful lobby at Sandia Casino

Views of the Sandia Mountains and the golf course from the pool area
We were done with breakfast early and headed off to the Albuquerque Convention Center for the RV Show put on by LaMesa RV. We had time before the show started to walk around the convention center.

Artwork at the convention center
Mural outside the convention center
After I chatted with Ingrid about RV choices, we wanted to walk through both a fifth wheel and Class C. LaMesa RV had a very good selection and variety of RVs. After spending several hours touring, we believe we have made a decision. Although we still aren't 100% decided, we are strongly leaning toward the Class C with a Jeep Wrangler toad. Of course, since we aren't hitting the road for awhile (ok - 7 years), we could still easily change our minds. There was plenty of space and we really like the layout, simplicity and the almost two feet difference in height. Also, we have always dreamed of having a Jeep Wrangler that we can use to explore off road trails.

Our biggest decision driver is the balance between comfort for full-timing and ease of finding boondocking, state park and national forest service campsites we can fit into. We know for sure we want solar to be able to live off the grid as much as possible and we want a composting toilet, but both those features will work in either type of rig.

There are as many answers to the question "what is the perfect RV" as there are RVers out there. I will continue to ask lots of questions on other blogs, read about what works and doesn't work for fellow bloggers and visit RV shows. Who knows what innovations will be made in the industry in the next five+ years. It is fun to learn and dream. Can't wait to see what we end up in!

The total cost of the overnight jaunt was $38.95 (food and parking fee at convention center in downtown Albuquerque).   Gas for Humphrey was probably was about $60.

Heartland fifth wheel
Heartland fifth wheel
Inside of Class C
Thor Chateau Class C with pull-out on one side, the length of the rig






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